Thursday, April 23, 2009

Agamben on Tiqqun



Paris, April 19, 2009

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is translation forthcoming?

Anonymous said...

I would really be interested to know what Agamben says about Tiqqun. Even if there isn't a complete translation could someone post a synopsis?

Anonymous said...

I heard that his talk was disrupted during the Q & A by people throwing water on him and turning the table over. Is this true? Can anyone verify this?

Anonymous said...

A translation of the "Introduction to Civil War"--the first essay in the book soon to be published by La Fabrique, Contributions a la guerre en cours--has been completed. Hopefully it will appear in the near future.
JS

Anonymous said...

Agamben begins by talking about Foucault and his studies on government power and prisons. He then goes on to talk about Tiqqun and how they had essentially resolved the two divergent elements of Foucault's thought (roughly the human subject and the object being government attempts to discipline). He says that Tiqqun/Invisible party has no authorship and thus it has been interesting that Coupat et. al have not been proved to have written anything, and that authorship as such is an idea of the bourgeois world and thus, by not having authors in their pieces, Tiqqun represents an effort to move beyond this world. He notes that laws nowadays are, on paper, far more repressive than those in use during fascist italy, and goes on to say how the tarnac 9 were tried by special judges, essentially a kangaroo court. He elaborates that biometric ID cards are being prepared for the populace, although they started with prisoners, and anyone who resists this will be by definition a terrorist. Finally he closes with an amusing story about his friends who worked for the Spanish republican government during 1936. They went to the US to improve governmental relations and were held up at immigration for being 'communists'. They said, we are not nor have ever been communists, but whatever you think a communist is, that's what we are. Agamben closes by saying in the same sense that we should all say we are not nor have ever been terrorists, but whatever you (cops) think a terrorist is, that's what we are.

Anonymous said...

Great, thanks for the summary. Sounds more interesting than his letter in support of Coupat and the Tarnac 9.

Anonymous said...

yes the Q&A was very raucous. the room was filled with many who were not trained in philosophy, didn't understand the lecture, and continually accused him of being a theoretician who had nothing to say about practice (despite him refusing this distinction several times). it was very disappointing. he finally got so pissed off at one of the questions he simply said fuck it i'm done here.

Andrew said...

here's a translation of the video:

http://nyfal.blogspot.com/2009/09/tiqqun-apocrypha.html

Anonymous said...

is there a translation of this available anywhere anymore?

Anonymous said...

http://anarchistwithoutcontent.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/tiqqun-apocrypha-repost/